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Tankless Water Heaters

   * used in Europe since the 1970's

   * save space, save energy, and never run out of hot water [Federal tax rebates often available]

   * last a really long time- 25 years or more is common, as long as you perform regular maintenance

Maintenance Requirements

   * Inspection: 1 Year After Install (Very important to see how everything is working)

   * After that every 2 years is fine, unless there is very high usage and/or no water softener

   * consists of a 45-minute de-scale / de-lime flush & a 5-point inspection

   * cost for this service:  $150 per unit

   * additional maintenance typical pricing (done on an as-needed basis):

     Fan service $50; Flame Rod service $50 

     Isolation Valve Replacement $400 (frozen valves are common when bi-annual service was not done)

     Burner service $250 (rare to actually need burner service)

Pricing - About $4,000...

   * Everyone wants to know price.  Did you notice that no other plumbing companies put the pricing on           the website?  This is because it is difficult to predict what the job will cost without doing a full                       inspection.  There are a lot of variables.  

   * However: as a general rule, the top-of-the-line units with built-in recirculation, installed in homes with a       dedicated recirc line, located inside the garage on exterior walls with good access to venting &                 drainage, with proper electrical, and nothing else too "weird," are generally in the range of $4,000.  

   * Now anything else that has to be done is obviously going to cost more.  If you need comfort valves,           those are $200 each installed.  If you need Angle Stops replaced, those are $75 each.  If you need             specialized venting, we have to look at that on a case by case basis, but typically it is $300 extra for           an outside penetration and low-profile termination kit.  If the wall has to be opened up and large                 sections of sheetrock have to be replaced, that obviously will cost extra.  If Access is limited, and/or           there is a very long distance between the work area and where I can park then that will cost extra.  If         we are replacing a 75-gallon standard water heater that weighs 350-pounds empty, and there are               pipes & wires all over the place, and 5 different uncertified handymen have been experimenting with         the home and things have been done that are not to code....that will also cost extra.

   * Summary:  I know my pricing is significantly lower than the larger companies.  I also know that I                 charge more than uncertified people.  Anyone can get a "plumbing license" but that doesn't make you       qualified to install a tankless water heater.  Certification takes constant training as there are major               installation differences not only from one brand to the next, but also from one model to the next even         within the same brand. [Example: the piping diagram on the Navien 240-A is totally different than on           the newer Navien 240-A2].  New models are constantly coming out so a certification needs to be               constantly renewed.  Protect your investment and demand to see the Rinnai, Navien, or Noritz                     "accord" (insurance document with each brand clearly listed).  That is your proof that the contractor is       fully certified & insured, not merely licensed.  You can also check the manufacturer's website to see           the contractor's name listed under "Certified Installers."  There's more to this than sweating two pipes         together.  And if it is installed improperly, it can void the manufacturer's warranty.  

Electric Tankless: 

   * currently these require as much electricity as your air conditioner, but only make about 4 gallons

     per minute.  There is a large cost for an electrician to run big wires to the unit, often requiring a sub-           panel and permits.  The electrical portion alone can be thousands of dollars.  As such these only               make sense if a builder installs them from the start, and even then only in very small homes and/or             condos.  

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